Curse

talisk3 · Jan 27, 2009, 01:55 AM // 01:55

I was trying to get a build that would spike nicely. I was originally going to use it for PvP but I forgot EotN skills can't be used -.-

Sooooo here is teh build!

12+1+2 Expertise
12+2 Marksmenship
Survivor/Radiant
[Glass Arrows][I am the Strongest!][Dual Shot][Triple Shot][You Move Like a Dwarf!][Point Blank Shot][Called Shot][Resurrection Signet]

I know it can be improved but here's why I chose each skill
[Glass Arrows] Underused IMO, Provides alright extra damage, help for the spike
[I am the Strongest!] Additional spikeage damage!
[Dual Shot] Start of spike
[Triple Shot] With high rank in Luxon/Kurzick this helps TONS
[You Move Like a Dwarf!] Knockdown to stop the kiting
[Point Blank Shot] ONLY used if the half range doesn't dis-advantage you/the knockdown worked
[Called Shot] Hopefully they won't dodge it and that'll kill
[Resurrection Signet] Pretty Straightforward

Let me know what you think! It works nicely but I will continute to mod it!

Skyy High · Jan 27, 2009, 02:20 AM // 02:20

Needs more [Asuran Scan].

MrGuildBoi · Jan 27, 2009, 02:27 AM // 02:27

As Skyy High said, needs [Asuran Scan]. Also might need some [zojun's shot]

zelgadissan · Jan 27, 2009, 02:40 AM // 02:40

Pitch YMLaD for Asuran Scan, then pitch either Point Blank or Called Shot for your choice of a conjure or [[Forked Arrow] - I'd say conjure since you should ideally have Aegis flying everywhere.

On second thought, you probably don't need the conjure but anything that adds damage to every arrow is a plus in my book.

jackinthe · Jan 27, 2009, 03:16 AM // 03:16

[Mark of Pain]

Shayne Hawke · Jan 27, 2009, 03:16 AM // 03:16

[build name="Pew Pew" prof=R/Rt Expertise=12+1+3 Marks=12+3 Restoration=3][Expert's Dexterity][I Am The Strongest][Needling Shot][Distracting Shot][Read The Wind][Asuran Scan][Air of Superiority][Death Pact Signet][/build]

I think Tyla posted something like this a while back. It's not necessarily a spike, but it'll dish out some pretty constant damage, it seems.

Take note that ED would be 21 seconds of +33% attack speed and +2 Marksmanship with a 20 second recharge.

Vazze · Jan 27, 2009, 03:20 AM // 03:20

spike < 1s and you do not have any attack skill combination that will be faster than 1s (hint: add 1s and 1/2s skills). You do not have the energy to use your attack skills on recharge: you are wasting skill slots. You are missing asuran (drop YMLD, you can't afford the energy). After you fixed these, you should be able to spike 500+ damage within 1s.

Icy The Mage · Jan 27, 2009, 04:29 AM // 04:29

[Expert's Dexterity][Triple Shot][Hunter's Shot][Savage Shot][Read The Wind][Asuran Scan][Distracting Shot][Optional]

Bobulation · Jan 27, 2009, 04:39 AM // 04:39

^ That one is pro

Valcion · Jan 27, 2009, 06:35 AM // 06:35

btw, just wondering, how much damage can you spike with asuran scan, glass arrow, conjure, and triple shot? I've heard that rangers can spike with triple shot for ~200dmg using only 4 skills, and those are the 4 I'm thinking of, though that means asuran scan is almost doubling the bonus damage by itself, which I just can't believe.

Patron_of_the_Wild · Jan 27, 2009, 07:41 AM // 07:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valcion

btw, just wondering, how much damage can you spike with asuran scan, glass arrow, conjure, and triple shot? I've heard that rangers can spike with triple shot for ~200dmg using only 4 skills, and those are the 4 I'm thinking of, though that means asuran scan is almost doubling the bonus damage by itself, which I just can't believe.

with 14 in Expertise, 11 in Marksmanship and 10 in Air Magic, Triple Shot hits different armor levels as follows:
(note, I tested it on the Isle of the Nameless and you probably won't get such a high dmg output in real PvE, not to mention HM. Oh, and I also had 'I am the strongest active)

[Conjure Lightning][I am the strongest][Glass Arrows][Asuran Scan][Triple Shot]

60 AL = ~ 370 dmg
80 AL = ~350 dmg
100 AL = ~ 330 dmg

Influenced by all dmg buffs Needling Shot deals exactly 138 dmg.

Often I like to bring Rebirth instead of a conjure, especially when playing with h/h, since you're most likely the last one standing and can rez your party in case of emergency.

Also don't forget to add a blocking stance. I like to take Lightning Reflexes, since you could use it as well to speed up your spike.

Oh, and no way does Expert's Dexterity come close to the spikability of Glass Arrows. Take it for constant DPS, but for spikes you'd want to have GA on your bar.

Age · Jan 27, 2009, 07:49 AM // 07:49

Dual Shot,Savage Shot, Punsighinsg Shot and a prep of your chice probably Rtw are spike

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Spike

Ranger spikes, which used the Ranger profession, combining Dual Shot with either Punishing Shot, Savage Shot, or less commonly Quick Shot.

WhiteAsIce · Jan 27, 2009, 09:59 AM // 09:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by IcyFiftyFive

[Expert's Dexterity][Triple Shot][Hunter's Shot][Savage Shot][Read The Wind][Asuran Scan][Distracting Shot][Optional]

Tried something like that, even with a vamp flatbow, Sloth Hunter's Shot did more damage than Triple Shot over 5 trials. But instead of Asuran Scan, I used I'm the Strongest and EBSoH.
With more damage buffs thrown in, Triple Shot would beat Sloth. You'd need more buffs like EBSoH, [[Order of Pain], or even [[Favorable Winds]. But if you only have ED, RtW, and [[Asuran Scan], Sloth is the better choice.

caballo_oscuro · Jan 27, 2009, 10:09 AM // 10:09

Come on guys, read the post, the original said he's making a pvp build so while asuran scan is a grweat suggestion, it's fail to suggest it, cos he can't use it... did they ever teach you in school that during a test you need to read the question properly... if this were an exam, all who suggested asuran scan would get 3/10 for attempting the question... moving on...

zwei2stein · Jan 27, 2009, 10:11 AM // 10:11

Needs more ["Finish Him!"]

tcratty · Jan 27, 2009, 02:42 PM // 14:42

good one caballo wish everyone knew how to follow instructions lol

ac1inferno · Jan 27, 2009, 02:47 PM // 14:47

Spiking in PvE is generally bad. For PvP, there's:

[build prof=R/W Marksmanship=12+2 Expertise=12+1+1][Burning Arrow][Hunter's Shot][Savage Shot][Distracting Shot][Flail][Lightning Reflexes][Read the Wind][Resurrection Signet][/build]

Balky · Jan 27, 2009, 07:15 PM // 19:15

Check out the DPS topic in here, some good spike builds in there that can be altered slightly for PVP

Sun Fired Blank · Jan 28, 2009, 12:24 AM // 00:24

He was originally going to use it for PvP, but then he realized that you can't use EotN PvE skills in PvP, so this is a PvE build.

Age · Jan 28, 2009, 08:04 AM // 08:04

I would use [punishing [email protected]] instead of burning arrow for a spike as wiki says.I get despite what it says over 50 to 60.